We are doing a full length commentary for episode the Dragon Reborn, episode four
Thank the light, everybody.
Thank the light.
I am Desmond. This is my hetero lifemate, fatty the chef.
Parched Aoman or Justin.
We are doing a full length commentary for episode the Dragon Reborn, episode four. They will be released separately. We’re doing them both tonight. I am so excited about these episodes because the first time we talked about them, um, we did all four together to try to catch up. So, like three and four were at the end of a marathon watch. A marathon record. Uh, just a lot. So I’m really looking forward. Yeah, we got a third person. Holy crap.
Who is it?
Uh, Barbara sedai.
Nice.
Yes. All right, well, me and Fatty and Barbara are going to hit play here in just a second. We’re going to talk about what’s going on in front of us so we can get everything synced up and then, uh, we’ll just kind of chat our way through the episode. And again, hopefully some friends will join Barbara here and, uh, they’ll help us, uh, fill in some of the dead space. You ready, fat?
Uh, absolutely, bro.
Who’s the dragon? Recapping previously on who is he
Let’s do this.
Play, um, the wheel of time, season.
One, episode four the Dragon Reborn all.
Zeros play who is he?
Two one play Amazon original smile.
Who’s the dragon?
Recapping previously on who is he? Is he reborn or is he treeborn? Or born with a third leg? Bartborn. Boom.
M I just did that.
I still love that.
It’s still one of my favorite lines. Oh, you actually tried to kill me. Oh, fuck. You’ll see.
You’ll see. Why fuck.
Aram. Five.
Give that madrawal a kiss.
Hello, eyeless. You have sexy teeth.
She’s a dark friend, boy.
Or she’s a dark friend Comma, boy.
That’s what Tom said about Dana too. Matt Gail.
Oh, yes.
Gilden.
Hey, everybody. I don’t know if you know this.
But this shows pretty good. I like it.
Dude, you know what I really love about this is this is something that is completely original that rafe wrote. Um, as far as know, like, they allude to what’s going on in Gildan.
But this is know they don’t tell.
You how Logan ganged his followers. And it’s like, well, this is how.
Because he’s not a bad guy.
The way they visualize the power.
It got changed.
But dude, he’s like not even like flexing at all. He’s just like. You notice how he’s not moving at all to channel?
Yeah.
Think about that for a second.
How what Moraine was doing and stuff like that.
And obviously she was doing some shit what he was doing was way less.
But he’s, like, barely flicking his fingers. M flick your booger fingers. Crown means.
I love how they manage to, uh, balls. Crown means fuck all, because the dragon reborn, basically.
Honestly, I keep kind of waiting.
There’s something called the Korea thin cycle, which is kind of like, um. They also call it the prophecies of the dragon.
And it’s, like, stuff that if Rand.
Is truly the dragon reborn, he’s supposed to kind of do certain things, and they’re kind of open to interpretation, too, but some of them are pretty specific. And so that’s something I think that he kind of. Right there, what Loghain said was something.
That’S kind of like.
I think it’s informing a little bit on the prophecies of the dragon because obviously they’re showing that he knows them, um, at least enough to where he truly does believe he’s the dragon. He’s not just like, I want power.
He’s like, I think I’m here to save everyone. Spoiler alert.
Logan’s actually one of the most.
Uh.
As far as, like, living in the.
Light, one of the most virtuous people in this world. Nice dagger. Oh, yeah.
He is just wielding all the magic.
Gray Jedi style. I know.
Uh, hey, you want to eat that?
You want to take a bite of that dagger?
I know it looks really fucking sharp. Like, really sharp.
I’ll put a little mayonnaise on it for you.
It’s all right. Yeah, you can smell it. So, do you want to fight or fuck now? Open up.
See, that’s a woman.
Yeah, for sure.
That’s a man. But that’s a man.
Okay. That’s what I want to know.
It must be his parents, I’m assuming.
Or something like that, because you really.
Don’T get a lot of backstory from Logan.
Desmond: It’s cool to see Gildan in the show
So that’s another reason why I really like this.
It’s cool.
It’s cool to see the fucking Gildan, which Gildan is not a lot in the books. It’s there. All you know is that that place is kind of messed.
Feel, uh, better when it’s just like this.
It’s like, okay, ride.
Let’s ride.
How did he learn to do that?
You know what I mean?
I said, I talk about, like, oh, it’s so dangerous to try to learn the power unchecked.
It’s like, well, how did he learn how to do instinct? You know?
I think when it comes to this.
Kind of show, a lot of it.
Maybe he’s not the dragon, but I think he was someone who was important.
Yeah.
Because, uh, Rand starts to figure out how to do stuff with the power.
It’s like, oh, it’s instinct.
But then at a certain point, he.
Starts to hear, which I can’t wait.
To see how they do with the show. He hears, actually, Lou Theron, and he.
Has internal conversations with Theron sometimes, but.
He’Ll start talking to him. And then sometimes Luz Theron will just.
Be like, I don’t know, recess to.
The corners of his mind and shut up or just laugh maniacally.
They’ll probably talk about in the episode. I’m probably getting out ahead of it, but. How long ago was that scene? Has he been running shit years?
No. A couple of months. Six months, maybe.
Okay. Oh, yeah.
Once he gets that much power, words going to get out.
Yeah.
I think that he kind of conquers Gildan or whatever brings the king to his side. And then they start getting ready to.
Kind of, like, march know.
I don’t know who.
I think the next closest, uh, is.
Like, is that’s where the white cloaks are.
And then there’s, like, another small place called Meridon, I think, because they couldn’t go straight at Tyr or alien because they’re too strong.
They have, like, a good military.
Um, but the tier.
And then you actually get to see one of the things I was saying, like, oh, it’s cool to see something.
That I visualized in the book.
When I see it on screen, it’s like. It makes me almost like, tear up.
I’m like, oh, my God, that’s whatever that is.
Uh, when you see Suan at the.
Beginning, you see the Stone of Tear.
Which is a really important place in the books.
It’s where one of the main prophecies.
Of the dragon is. And, uh, so to see it, I can’t wait to see inside it.
And, uh, just all that. It’s just. Yes.
Barbara says I cried early and often just because I missed the world and these characters so much. Seeing it in front of my eyes.
So real, so recognizable, even through the.
Lens of an adaptation, moved me, and I could not agree more.
Green tents.
Rain.
Getting a little bit of that love and healing. I’m going to actually watch this one. I kept on doing a little bit of research during the last episode, trying.
To find some interesting tidbits, and, uh.
It’s the rewatch, Desmond.
It’s not the re wikipedia read.
Uh, I know.
Watch.
We can take our Internet deep dives later.
Right now, rewatch. Yeah.
Don’t fucking tell me about my power.
Kareem has a false dragon in his pants because he has a vasectomy
Oh, you’re a false dragon.
My pants have a false dragon.
And I think that’s Kareem today. I think she made her kind of like a main character immediately.
Oh, what makes it false?
The fact that it’s not a real boner. This is a viagra driven boner. It’s not real.
It’s because I have a vasectomy. I’m not breathing real fire.
That’s right. I forget that you got a vasectomy. I can’t say enough about. I mean, I know I talked about.
Another podcast, but the way there is.
Some stuff that’s a little bit. It’s like the whole, like, deep breathing and stuff, but it’s like, you know, I don’t fucking do magic.
How the fuck would I know?
Maybe you got to take a deep breath in a kegel exercise before you really fire up that shield.
I don’t know.
Well, you definitely would until you were fully reborn. Yeah, you probably. Well, I do another podcast. Uh, as far as I’m concerned, a real wizard. And I’ve watched her get better and go from having to do long prayers and deep breathing to now. A lot of times she’s just like, all right, I’m there, motherfuckers. What do you want to know?
That’s pretty crazy. She’s the one that reads the records or whatever.
Yeah.
The way they settled this shield over him. Sorry to dive back in.
No worries.
The way they settled the shield over him, a lot of the things they call weaves or a web of protection or something like that.
Uh, yes.
The way it settles over him, I just don’t know how it could have been more visually accurate unless it was an actual spider web.
It’s so awesome. And then, yeah, as this episode goes on.
But that’s pretty cool that the chick with the Katie, the more that she does it, the more she can just kind of slip into, like, that’s why.
If we do the, um.
I don’t know what this is about.
Uh, Justin and I have been talking about reading the script for episode one.
And we’re kind of going back and.
Forth on whether we want people who really know the material and want to just fucking shakespeare it or getting a bunch of unknowns reading it. And if we go unknown, like a mix of both. If we go unknown, I want Katie to be moraine.
Yeah.
And I want Cassidy, her co host, to be. And, uh, Cassidy is a professional actor, so he will destroy land.
Oh, cool.
And Katie’s a wizard, so she’ll make believe.
Nice. Nice.
Yeah, that would be a lot of even.
I got, like, big, uh, reds on.
Board for that shit. I think Lisa probably will.
Yeah. I think Connor might even be down.
It would just be so fun to have people read it and just, like, be halfway through a paragraph go, what the fuck is this line?
What are they talking about?
What is happening?
Is this some sort of lord of the Rings shit?
Yeah, dude. Are, uh, there exactly what it is?
Uh, uh. They keep mentioning dragon, but who is this guy?
Go with it.
Oh, and this guy Perrin.
This was a tough.
Or not Perrin.
What’s his name?
Steppin. But the second half of this episode and the next episode are kind of rough for me because it’s like, as a book reader, I need none of it, really. Well, I just mean, like, I have.
All of that background already, so it’s.
Like, I totally get why they did it, and I’m not mad about it.
But it’s like the way they really.
Drive home the border bond with the funeral and everything like that. I got that because I read 15 books about it.
Yeah.
Well, as a non book reader, it was perfect.
Just enough, not too much a hair.
Over the top, just to really pound in how much lan and moraine feel for each other.
Yeah.
Without it being.
For AES sedai, it’s not a sexual thing
And that’s another thing that people are going, so woke, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
It’s like they do a really good job of conveying. It’s like this bond is the most.
Powerful bond that both these people have in their life. But there’s literally.
It’s really not familial because it’s not like.
I mean, that’s probably what it is, is like a really close brother and sister bond is probably the closest thing that it could be compared to. But it’s certainly, for a lot of the warders in the AES sedai, it’s not a sexual thing.
Um, especially.
And then I think it differences between the ajas.
You know what I mean? Obviously, if you’re a green, you’re a little bit more horny, you’re a pervert.
You definitely are probably fucking your warders. And that’s why they have more than one.
A lot of them are married to them. I think blues are close with their.
Warders in a way that it’s like they kind of have the same mission. Uh, it’s like, hey, we’re finding the.
Dragon, or we’re doing this, and it’s like they’re on the same page and.
They have the same mission statement and goal.
And so the yellows, I think, are different.
They’re all about healing.
So I don’t know.
That’s just my opinion on. You’ve seen a lot of greens and a lot of blues and reds, which don’t have waters.
Yellows are healers.
It seems like yellows are definitely the main. That’s their main goal is healing. We always see that they only have one water.
Well.
Greens are good at healing too, because they are a battle. They’re all about battle. So, um, they know how to do destructive fighting. Weaves. And then some of them are pretty good at healing too. But it’s like something else. It’s like every person, like, oh, maybe.
You’Re good at woodworking with your hands.
Or maybe you cook really good, or each AES sedai kind of tends to have a talent that kind of surfaces and that kind of points them in the direction of their aja.
I was just talking to my.
Not always, but I was just talking.
To the teen about that today. I said, uh, everybody is in the one percenter of something, right? Maybe you’re the best card shuffler ever, or maybe you’re the best hula Hooper.
Or whatever, but we’re all a one percenter. Yeah, I’m a one percenter in wearing fingerless gloves and taking bong hits.
I’m a one percenter of four, um, footers.
Dude, this guy hill.
Fun fact, listeners.
This guy has the biggest lungs.
I think he’s like, part, like, frog or something. He’s the biggest lungs of anyone I’ve ever seen in my life. I used to fucking waste eight on this guy just to be like, take another one.
Take another one.
I don’t believe it.
Do it again.
And you’re finally like, dude, I can’t. I have to go to work.
Justin would just call me into the kitchen, and I’m like, what? He’s like, I just bet this guy $20 that you can take two four footers without exhale.
And I’m just like, all right, fired up. Come on, man.
I bet him a quarter. I’ll give you half.
Let’s go.
Well, let’s do fucking. I guess we got. Oh, what’s that? It’s time to go to work.
Let’s do it. I never lost, fatty.
Never lost any money on me.
Always bet on slip.
Be careful.
I’d take you in a fucking. Well, maybe not anymore because you might pass out, but, like, in a beer.
Chugging contest back in the day, or.
It doesn’t matter if it was water.
You could just chug shit.
Yeah, I put away the liquids. I got big lungs and big gut.
Uh, that’s why, yeah, I got to.
Go get my prostate checked, and my doctor is just like, do you get up in the middle of night and pee? I’m like, well, yeah, but I drink.
A gallon five times.
But I also drink 17. Matter of fact, I don’t pee all day, and then I pee all night.
All night?
Is that a thing?
Does that mean I’m in trouble?
I don’t know.
Stick your finger at my ass.
We’ll figure it out.
It made me think of this fucking story. Me and Lizzie used to work with this chick.
Matt Miller: The first season just gets me. Like I said, it’s like all this first season did
Her name was.
First of all, her name was hack, and she was just a trashy little cocktail waitress. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but she was also just kind of a jerk.
But, uh, she was talking about, uh.
Telling Lisa some story about being with.
Some guy, and she was just like.
God, I just was drunk, and I was over.
And she’s just like, God, just fucking stick it in my ass and come. He. And then he’s like, okay. And then she’s like, what the fuck are you doing?
Get out of my house.
She’s telling us the story at the bar with all of her coworkers. Me and Lisa are just like, what?
I know that name. I’ve never met. Uh, but every time, you’re like, fucking, back in the day, Lisa was talking to Kai. I’m just like, oh, this is going to be a great.
Always. It’s funny. That kid, she was super always jealous of Lisa. And she wrote this haiku one time about Lisa was like something like, lisa, I hate you the most.
It’s like, um, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Dude, right here, too.
Uh, stay focused.
Stay focused, dude, right there.
That’s such foreshadowing because there’s a shield on rand with, I think, 13 sisters.
Later, and you see those little points of balls of light in their hands. That’s what rand is seeing in his head.
And it’s like the whole shield around Logan. There’s 13 of those little points, and he forces the power. You can see how Logain flexes the power outward. Ran figures out a way to keyhole into the little ball, which is like a little knot, and then just flex and burst it.
And he stills, like, three or four.
Women doing, oh.
You reek of bullshit. I, uh, know God. Yeah.
Nynaeve brokers. Zero bullshit from anyone, except maybe lan. Like I said, it’s like all this first season did is just get me.
So nerd bonered up for just like.
All the other stuff when I’m just like, uh oh. Will this make it in? If so, how will they do this?
I, uh, daydream like a little kid nerd about his gifts from Santa Claus. Oh, no.
He’s only afraid of your shadow, Matt. Yeah, your creepy.
Hey, guess who’s possessed?
It’s you.
That’s why the horse fucking thinks you’re creepy, bitch.
This Guy’s got a magnificent beard. Yeah, he does. Not that I ever want that, but I mean, Jesus, it’s sick.
It’d be nice to have the option.
I think I could probably grow a.
Really gnarly beard, but I get so itchy and I’m just like.
Probably be.
Good for my fat fucking face.
Would you have ran?
And if I was going to kill you, would I run over and give.
You a little tickle? Tickle? Tickle, tickle, tickle, tickle. Come here.
Give me a kiss. I want to feel that beard on my.
Hmm. Mhm.
I do.
Tom’s jacket has multicolored patches on it in the books
One of the things that you’ll notice if you see the inside of Tom’s.
Jacket, it’s got patches on.
It’s got, like, multicolored patches on. Oh, in the books, that’s the thing. The gleeman has a multicolored, uh, cloak. That’s kind of what identifies him as the.
Those are those patches from different places he’s traveled to.
I’m not sure what the patches are. I think it’s just kind of like, oh, demon wear multicolored cloaks.
That’s how you know, huh?
Oh, Leandrin, try to get late on your own time.
Okay? First of all, thirsty. Hi.
Have you ever thought about joining the red Aja?
We’ll get you a pair of these sweet boots.
They are pretty sweet.
No, I’m going to hang out with.
Uh, fucking Nainee. Looks like she wants to punch a size her face.
Rather have cold chicken instead of your hot turkey?
Crazy red.
I keep on waiting for them to, like, fucking land. Looks like a hillbilly Aladdin.
I keep waiting for them to zoom out so I can see a color of every tent.
Are these just greens and reds hanging out?
I think so, man. I think it’s just greens and reds.
That’s the only people who are like.
When you see the cave scene, when.
They’Re all trying to do the thing.
It’S like six reds and four greens or three greens or something like that.
I think, obviously, you see how much.
Bigger their pavilion tent is than the greens.
Yeah.
Speaking of colorful, look at that wagon train. I know what’s funny is that eventually.
Perrin and Aram end up back together, and he’s.
His little.
Lap dog’s not the word.
I’m looking for, but he’s just his little shadow with. You know what?
I’m not going to say that.
We’ll get there, folks.
We’ll get there.
Not all tinkers are nonviolent. Let’s just fucking say that.
A lot of people are comparing Witcher to Game of Thrones
All right. Uh, when someone comes at you with.
A sword, you don’t throw grass at them.
No. You punch them in the dick. Yeah. Dragon punch. Yeah.
And you know what? I think I should amend my statement. I’ve been saying, like, oh, people are looking for a Game of Thrones replacement. It’s like, no, this isn’t the same as Game of Thrones. It kind of fits in the same genre to a certain extent when it’s like fantasy, but it’s like, the more that I really reading it, that’s how I felt. But you’re kind of like, well, I don’t know.
You can’t really tell if it’s futuristic or medieval or whatever.
And then there’s some things that go.
On in the books that you look.
Forward and you look to the past and you really can’t tell which is which sometimes.
Yeah.
And so it’s kind of like, well, this is definitely not medieval. If it’s anything, it’s post apocalyptic in a certain way. But, um, uh, seeing it on screen, it really reinforced that to me.
Uh, because I was not confused, but.
I was kind of, like, on the fence. I was like, it could be either.
And then you’re like, oh, no, I see.
Um, Kelly tried to watch Witcher, uh, season two, and she’s like, I don’t know what the fuck is going on. So she restarted season one, and I watched it with her. So I just finished witcher season one.
And kind of like you said, it’s like, not.
I actually ran into a couple of articles of witcher versus the wheel of time. So a lot of people are directly comparing them.
Um, for sure, I’m definitely seeing it a lot because the main character in the witcher is a big fan of wheel of time.
Oh, really?
Okay.
Yeah, it’s very different, but all of.
The same archetypes are there in both shows.
Oh, for sure. Because it’s kind of like this mixture of fantasy and magic, too, uh, with a certain level of darkness. The witcher is cool, but it’s kind of like you said, it’s entertaining.
But as far as story goes.
I look at it as a bunch of short stories.
Because of the overall story, I have.
To watch it more because I really don’t.
I think season two is going to get a little bit more streamlined and followable. But yeah, season one is very much.
It does.
It feels like five short stories.
Well.
And people who played the games and stuff, I know really liked it.
Yeah.
I never did because that’s types of game.
It’s like right up my alley. Yeah, it was right in our wheelhouse too. And we were just fucking playing everything regardless. Yeah, I’ll play this for 6 hours.
Whatever.
Too busy getting stoned all night and playing ghost recon and Call of Duty like a fucking idiot.
Fucking halo stomping dude.
I’ll never outgrow Madden because I love football. But it’s like, dude, we still play.
Dude.
The amount of time I spend on Halo, I’m just like, um, fucking kill myself.
Like, what a waste.
I still love a good first person. I still buy call of duty every year just because I like just not having to learn a new system and just shooting people in the face.
Um, I don’t have time to learn call of duty.
I play need for speed. Call of duty and Madden and whatever.
Tom jumps immediately into action in the books. I love how Tom jumps immediately
Her doll’s name is.
Brigitte.
She’s important as, uh, fuck. She is one of the heroes of.
The horn archer, uh, with a silver bow. Hawkeye, female version.
Yeah, she’s way cooler than Hawkeye, dude. She goes out and gets all drunk with the men. Tells him to shut the fuck up, beats him up.
I’m going to go.
I love how Tom jumps immediately. He doesn’t know anything about these guys when he’s like, oh, Matt’s horse is acting weird.
He can probably channel like, what? Whoa, whoa.
I told you Tom’s seen some shit.
The book set, the thing. Tom is a guy. You’re like, oh, he’s a glee man. And you find out that he was like a court barred at one point. You find out he was a court barred to the queen of Andor at one point and was also her lover and got ran out of town with a price on his head because they broke up. But, uh, you also find out the reason they broke up is because he.
Went to try to protect Owen.
Because Tom’s got that good, good.
That’s why, dude.
I think he does. I think Tom lays fucking pipe and he can sing. He’s always got the ladies.
He can make love and fuck.
Tom’s a great character in the books, man. I can’t wait for you. I’m as excited about watching the show and doing the podcast with you. As for you to catch up in the books so that we can. I can’t wait for you to get probably to the end of the eye.
Of the world and go, that was so cool. What happened?
Why am I so happy?
I’m so stoked. Rand is so badass, but what did he do?
Uh, oh, yeah.
Would have been cooler if it was a salad fork. You know what they say? Uh, no. No one says that it’s better to.
Have harnessed the power and lost than.
Never to have powered at all. Is that what they say?
Uh, I think what they say is, with two men coming in his face, redo smells sack. I think I read that somewhere. One happy I love. Ah, Jim Rome, man. He’s the best man because Lisa doesn’t give fucking two shits about sports.
But I can put on Rome, and.
She just cracks the fuck up because he’s funny. And they call people who listen the community the jungle. And it’s like, people have jungle Tourette’s because it’s like he’s got all these drops on the show, and I shout him out all the time. I put some of them on this podcast, and it’s like, if you don’t listen to the show, you just look.
At me like, what in the fuck is this idiot talking about? Bikes. Bikes.
My wife hates Tom Segura because he’s fat and disgusting
All right, you get, uh, fucking Tom Segura.
You get one. You get one.
My wife hates Tom Segura.
With a fucking. When he first came out, she was like, he’s pretty funny.
And then his stuff with his wife.
And the kid and stuff, and just like, it’s obviously, he’s not a bad.
Guy, but she’s just like, he’s fucking fat and disgusting.
His wife is a comedian, too. I always forget her name, but she’s fucking funny.
Oh, really? Yeah.
Uh, I’ll dig up her name and send it to you. After the kid, she kind of took.
A little bit of a he.
Like, it’s so funny. When she got pregnant, she obviously couldn’t work anymore, or she decided not to.
Work, and then he put out, like.
Six albums that year. He’s like, I got to make some fucking money for this kid.
I know.
I just had a kid. Jesus Christ, I better make a college. And, like, I’ve seen him interviewed. He seems like he’s a pretty cool cat, but it’s. Know, some of his stuff comes off as real shitty. And Lisa just. It’s caught her at the wrong time a few times. She’s like, I fucking hate that guy. Which just makes me kind of laugh because it’s just like, he’s a fucking media who.
Trying. He’s trying.
Totally.
I get it. Yeah. Have you ever watched Nate Bargatzi?
Oh, fuck, yeah. Love Nate.
I fucking love that.
He’s.
He kills, dude. Apparently you don’t know.
He’s one of those guys. I bumped into his stand, like, ten years ago, and seeing him finally come to life has been amazing.
God damn it. It’s funny. He’s so great.
And he’s funny because he almost never curses. He makes me laugh hella hard.
Yeah.
He’S got one. The first one I remember is something about a clown, because his dad was a straight up clown, and so his first stand up is kind of about that.
Yeah, his dad was a clown, and he’s. He’s like. Like, oh, I didn’t know you grew up, uh, in a magician family.
I wish I dreamed of growing up.
I was talking about how his dad gave the Easter bunny a ride home, and he’s like, that’s just the life I grew up with. It wasn’t even weird to see a clown and an Easter bunny driving home.
This is my life.
Huh.
I can’t imagine. Like, that would be the worst thing ever.
The dark one isn’t after volcanic. Not opposite, but just not the same entity
The dark one isn’t after volcanic.
See, that’s what I keep on getting mixed up with, is that the dark one and the dragon are not the same thing.
Yeah, no, definitely on the opposite sides of things.
Not opposite, but just not the same entity.
Well, yeah, no, that’s true.
Because the thing is, even Ishmael talks about, he’s know there have been times.
When you’ve given over to the dark.
One or you died, uh, before you could even come into your power and stuff like that.
So it’s like, who, uh, knows how many times the dragon has been kicked out?
And then it’s just like, nothing happens. And that’s another thing, too.
It’s like Ishamel.
And this was something I was curious about in the books. It’s like he has always been able.
To kind of affect the world, but they don’t really tell you how.
Sorry, I kind of zoned out there for a minute, because I love that right there. That’s more of a slow burn when lan says, you always get emotional when I drink.
Oh, yeah.
Showing their connection.
Yeah.
Well, that’s just letting you know how the bond affects.
Yeah.
Why is his mouth always open?
Dude, take a dance beat.
Just close it.
Close your mouth, blacksmith, or smile.
He’s going to punch you right in your mouth.
Yeah, probably, if he ever hears this.
He’S going to kill me. You m can already tell that.
Aram’s, like, not about the way of the leaf. He’s looking for a reason to leave. He’s, like, so sarcastic about the song.
He’s like, meh, don’t even care. This is stupid.
The two athens do seem like they.
Know how to kick it, though. I love mad footsie. Play angry footsie.
Not mad, like, a lot.
Why are you so angry at my footsie?
My tootsies?
Not angry.
Excessive. Oh, I get it. I know how words work.
All I keep seeing is Barbara Sedai, and I just keep thinking of fucking Shaun of the dead.
Hi, Barbara. Hi, Barbara.
Oh, my, how you’ve grown. You better believe it.
God, I got to watch that.
This is cool, too, because it informs on the twelveth one, that.
They’Re not.
Uh, like a nation of people.
They’re just literally, like, they’re fucking gypsies.
They’re just like, hey, you want to fucking come to our family? Don’t be a dick. Let’s go. We got space for everybody.
There’s just so many things that this first season has left
Um, there’s just so many things that this first season has kind of left.
And it’s one of the things for me that’s really cool and great because I’m interested in seeing the story told in a different way. And I guess some book people maybe.
Aren’T, but Perrin having a wife at.
The beginning and not getting a wife.
Later, it’s like, will she still going to be a big part of his.
Story, or is it going to be something different? Or the stuff with Gwen ends up with a warder who ends up being from the Andor in, uh, royal line.
And they’re close, and so it’s, know.
Will that guy still be in the.
Show, or will Perrin somehow replace that?
You know what I mean?
It’s like, yeah, I just got to.
Uh, uh, correct ourselves. The Romani people. I just happened to have had a couple of conversations on another podcast about, uh, uh, gypsy being a derogatory term.
Apologies, apologies. I thought you meant Romani. I was like, are we talking about the ruling family in Twilight? The vampires who are in. Oh, that’s the Voltari or whatever?
Um, I had to watch those movies way too much.
My daughters were like that when that shit came out.
I’m just like, ah, God, that’s right, dude. Have you watched a lot of.
I mean, he was in Tenet.
Of course. You’ve probably seen that.
Um.
Oh, my God. Hey, everyone, do yourself a favor out there. Watch Tenet and then listen to the time pop episode about Tenet. It’s amazing. Um, what’s his fucking. He’s going to be Batman in a minute.
Like, whatever his fucking name is.
The head vampire in that movie is a fucking gangster. He’s got that twilight money, so he can do whatever the fuck he wants. And so he just plays some really.
I just tudor those things out, so I couldn’t tell you who they’re talking about. I know Edward.
I know Kristen Stewart’s dumb face.
I know that other fucking kid who can’t act.
Jacob. Yeah. And then that’s about it. But Edward.
Edward whoever, I’m going to look up right now because it’s driving me crazy.
Um.
He’s an amazing actor.
Edward was fucking Robert Pattinson.
Thank you. Thank you. Yes.
He’s going to be Batman.
What? Yeah, it’s already done.
It’s filmed. It’s coming out in a couple months.
But like I said, honestly.
Christian Bale is a pretty good Batman.
He looks very much. I still don’t know what the fuck really happened with Ben Affleck, but I think Robert Pattinson is going to kind.
Of pick up where Ben.
Ben asks, like, drank a lot. That’s probably his big problem, which.
Hello. I mean, if you were Batman, wouldn’t you be a little.
No, Batman’s one of those cats that just has, like, a nice double shot of scotch at the end of the night, gets his evening sauna end to recover, and then takes some CBD and goes to bed.
Not when he’s 45, 50 years old, bitch.
It’s Bruce Wayne.
Hey, you know what I know.
He’s like. I have ketamine treatments, steroid injections. It’s hard to keep up with this life. My fucking teeth are falling out, man, from all the steroids. God damn. My balls are the size of peanuts. Superman has fucking got it made.
This is some bullshit.
Fuck the DC universe anyway.
It sucks. DC Universe should be fine if they weren’t fucking. I don’t ever need another.
They just need to quit rebooting. Just quit rebooting it.
Just make a decision and do it. I know.
With your stupid timelines, you comic book nerds.
Perrin can go into dreams too, so Matt cannot go there
Uh, so right here, bro, this is the world of dreams. 100%. This is telling Riyadh.
Yeah.
Rand is there, and he dreams himself there kind of by accident, but Perrin is also there because as part of Perrin’s power with the wolf brothers is he can go into telling Riyadh too. Matt cannot go there. So I don’t know what the fuck I think that’s why Matt kind of.
Keeps disappearing is because Rand’s just watching him.
She can dream herself into telling Riyadh, too. She’s what you call a dreamer. She doesn’t have to channel herself in.
She can just fall asleep and take herself there.
Rand has to basically go to sleep wrapped in the know that they talk about in the end. So he’s basically holding Cydine while he goes to sleep and then channels himself in there. Perrin’s same as Zgwen. He could just dream himself there, and he’s there. And Perrin’s incredibly strong there. Stronger than a lot of people who can channel.
This is such a good scene. Really close to what I pictured in the book
This is such a good scene. I see you fade.
They, uh, do such a great job of the fade moving from shadow to.
Shadow, because that’s how they are.
That’s one of their kind of powers.
Is that they use the shadow, uh, know, disappear, reappear. Oh, that’s sick as fuck.
I was hella Jedi snatched that blade out.
Bang. Matt did not kill them. Anyone who’s confused, Matt did not kill them. They’re gone.
Oh, um, and you said that comes back later?
Not the doll. The doll.
She’s named after Brigitte, which is like if you had a superman doll. It’s like she’s a hero of the horn. Okay, that is famous in legends.
She’s an action figure, sort of.
But she was a real person, too. But she was a real person a lot of different times. One of her names is Brigitte Silberbo, but she’s always attached to this man.
Who is usually younger than her by.
A lot of years.
And he’s always, like, the ugliest man around for some reason, which is funny.
I don’t know why, but, uh, then they always just. Every spinning of the wheel, they end.
Up together, which is pretty cool and romantic. I thought that was awesome.
Quit your bitching, Leandrin. I’m sick of you already. This dude’s badass.
He’s a really good low game.
Really close to what I pictured in the book.
That’s the thing.
I was like, man, so many things.
It’s like, leandrin fucking, uh, from the book. Nineveh Egwene. Boom. Um. Rand.
Amazing. Perrin’s got the look. He’s got the fierceness.
He just needs know, close his. Sorry. Sorry. Apparently, there’s going to be a bunch of fireworks going off in my house.
Bro. I live by the reservation out here when we lived in shoreline.
It’s like New Year’s, maybe like St.
Patrick’s Day or some other weird holiday. Memorial day.
That’s it. Every fucking weekend.
Really?
Hey, it’s going to dump ten inches of snow. Let’s blow some shit up. Gunshots, too. Lots of guns out here.
Oh, yeah, I bet.
Which, with my growing up, I’m like, uh, I feel safe, baby. I got spur of.
And Lisa’s like, what is like? It’s just rednecks shooting their popping off. This is white noise, baby.
Lance greasing up his palm, just getting.
Ready to pull it out.
Lady.
What the fuck? Uh, you know how expensive this fucking oil is, lady? Touch? Come here, I’ll show you. Bend over and I’ll show you. Who are your people?
Oh, your people.
Sorry.
No, it’s rain. Just rain. Rain?
Canadians? That’s not what he says. What does he say? It’s children.
Children.
It’s just rain.
Rain. Do you pray often? Only when I have boners I can’t get rid of.
Oh, uh, you cannot pray the boners away?
I have tried.
Uh, she doesn’t even know what she’s saying.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, well, I don’t know how to.
Pray, so blibity blobity blooper. It seems kind of offensive, a little bit like, I know it’s meant to be endearing, but it’s kind of like, oh, you’re praying?
Well, your God’s a blibbly blabbery blue.
It’s like active camouflage. If you can channel it, it does whatever
It seems a little. Amen, dude.
One of the things that I hope.
They kind of get a little more.
As they move on. It’s like they talk about the warders. I don’t know if it’s their clothes. Uh, they have coats that are special, too, but their cloaks are made of this. Fuck, they have a word for it. From when, like the age of legends, when Luce Theron Tellerman was alive. It was called a certain kind of.
Uh, fabric, but they don’t have a lot of it, uh, now.
And what they do have, they used to make warders cloaks.
And it kind of, like, I think.
If you can channel it definitely kind of does whatever, but it kind of blends into the background.
So it’s like predator camouflage.
Like active camouflage. They kind of disappear all of a sudden. You’ll just see, like, if his hood’s not up, you’ll just kind of see his head walking through the forest and you can’t see anything else.
It’s like, whoa, crazy. At least that’s how they describe it in the books, so I hope they.
Do something kind of like that in. This would be kind of fucking cool.
Like Harry Potter cloak.
Yeah, definitely.
Just like that.
The cloak of Aielman.
A little bit more like blend into the background type of thing. More than invisibility, more like camouflage.
But same idea. Oh. Shouting in the distance because shit. About to go down.
I was just looking at the time. I’m like, are they going to be able to pull this off? But, yeah, shit is just about ready to get crazy.
Did you catch that? Little fucking sparkling in the background behind her. She says my wards. Yeah, no, she’s basically set, like, a security type perimeter around their camp.
So as soon as someone tripped it, she. Oh, okay.
It’s definitely a cool trick of the power that.
I mean, just take this all.
Like, this is one of the coolest things.
This is your first real.
Oh, yes.
I love how land jumps in front of Nynaeve immediately.
He’s already sprung, bro. Yeah, Alana, tough. Wait for it. Look at the braid. Look at Nynaeve. Hm.
God, he did just stand in front of her. Thanks for pointing that out. Oh, uh, all he had to do was blink.
Like I said, obviously he’s very strong.
To bust out of that, but they.
Even say he’s not even, uh, close to Rand’s power.
Dude, this is sick.
This is your first real look at the power. And it’s like being a book reader and imagining it.
Uh, it’s just like I just watched with my mouth open, parent style.
Yeah, I was totally parent for this whole scene.
I was paring down on this scene.
So many, uh. So good.
How many greens do I see?
Oh, that’s right.
They kind of drew them away from the cave. I’m like, why did they just run into this random place?
Yeah, they’re trying, but to me, you.
Can kind of see how the greens.
Are a little bit more efficient with their movements when they’re kind of, quote unquote battle magicking. More. Moraine is a little more theatrical. Fucking Nineveh is a savage. Uh, I can channel like crazy, but I’m just going to stab you with my fucking paring knife real quick.
You’ve got a sword. I don’t care, dude.
Okay, here we go.
Dude.
Border with, like, shooting three arrows at a time. This is fucking dope, too. I’m just going to melt these bars away.
Just melt.
Gone. Follow me. Get up. Broke that tree with your back.
The end in episode eight is linked. Who’s them? Um, this is some good foreshadowing
Hi, ladies. I like Logan just flexing like.
Hey, why don’t you come in here for a second?
Hey, baby, you want to dance? Oh, uh, yes, I do. Wait for it. Dude, I’m sorry.
Think about the confidence that she has.
Just walking up to him like this. What are you going to talk about?
No, I’m not into analingus.
M but I’ll think about it. I’ll show you why I’m the dragon. Who’s them? Um, this is some good foreshadowing, too. Yeah. Who’s them? Yeah.
While she’s not wrong, uh, that’s the wrong answer.
But while he’s not wrong, that’s kind of what it’s one of the things that happens to ran.
Is he. You know, how does he know that?
It’s loose there and in his head. He just knows.
Well, that’s probably the difference between the one and a psycho, is hearing a.
Single voice of, um, lose and hearing a bunch of people screaming in your ear, kill him. That’s a good point.
That’s a good point, too, because that’s.
What would make you crazy. I mean, you said rand definitely goes a little nuts, but that would really make you crazy if you just heard a thousand voices.
What do you want, Moraine? Oh, you got a little peepee, Logan? Yeah. Leandrin’s pissed. Get up.
Get down.
And you’re looking at three of the.
Most powerful channelers in the tower.
Yeah, let’s see what happens here. We had a little.
Oh, nice. She saves them, um, and dies. That’s right.
And she gets stabbed with the power. That’s why she dies. As opposed to other people who get stabbed with objects.
Well, it’s basically like air, right?
It’s like a solidified air bullet, basically.
But there’s no real. Yeah, you can’t heal magic.
You can only heal wounds. I think.
Stepping. I already missed stepping.
I know. Poor guy. Yeah.
Three, four arrows at a time, launching darts at you, motherfucker.
Um. Oh, no, the other guy are, uh, Atlanta’s warders. Was her warder, too. Where are you going?
The dude with the bow who’s fucking. She’s badass.
You know what?
She’s a character that fucking pisses me the fuck off in the books, but she’s badass in the show.
That’s such a cool shot. Damn it. That’s badass.
Yeah, it is.
The way they just kind of, like, tuck their heads. This is such a good demonstration, uh.
Such a good demonstration of the.
That’s going to hurt. Oh, is that the guy?
Yeah, that’s the king. Yeah.
This is a great battle.
Okay, right here, look how she’s drawing too much. She starts to gloat, but the other two, uh, she’s linked with them.
I think maybe she’s not linked, but.
It’S like when the chick is at.
The end in episode eight is linked. She’s about to burn her friends or her people out next to her. Oh, that’s right. I know.
Way to fuck it up, stepping, you dip shit.
You did fuck it up.
Thank you.
Uh, lan catches it in the neck.
Dude.
Dude, she has that whole thing. Oh, land’s going to look. It’s, uh, in the shape of a.
Dragon’S fang at first, too. What?
Logan channeled again for our benefit as a viewer
What you gonna do.
M? Yeah.
Oh, Nynaeve, she’s so badass.
Bright.
Look at all those weaves popping out.
She healed three people on the verge of death.
Backed him off.
I, um, mean, even just land would.
Have been a feat. Yeah, land was already dead. Land was already dead practically. He was seconds from death.
Yeah, and I’m not the dragon, motherfucker.
See, I want to know what that.
Means, why he can see her.
Because men shouldn’t be able to see women channeling what he can see.
No.
Yeah, the women can’t see men channeling. Men can’t see, like, how all the females can see this.
The little weaves that you’re seeing right.
Now is for our benefit as a viewer. Logan, as a man who can channel, or any other people who can’t channel, shouldn’t be able to see that. They could see him be lifting into the air and stuff, but they can’t see the weaves.
See how they’re all linked right now? Yeah. Oh, you want to hear a spoiler, bitch? Uh, oh, the goat. You want to hear a spoiler whisper?
Do you like Logan? Do you like Logan?
I do.
He’s going to channel again.
Don’t worry.
How you ask. How you ask.
But all he’s going to, uh, channel, uh, uhF, channel 13.
Oh, my braids came undone. Now I look like the predator.
You’re one ugly motherfucker.
Uh, you better take out the fucking trash, land.
Holy shit.
Yet again.
Whoa.
Barbara sedai: I really needed to rewatch those episodes
Well, I hope that was good for you out there, people. I feel like I had a lot to talk about in the first episode or two, and these ones, I think Fatty had a lot to say, so I think he’s going to help us tie, uh, everything together. I really needed to rewatch those episodes.
Me, too, actually, you know what? That’s the thing. I apologize to anyone listening. I got a little quiet a couple of times because, like I said, we were watching so much catch up, and those episodes are really layered, too, man.
Yeah. Number three is a little bit slower, but just a really good episode. And number four is just like we are in, and we didn’t see. Oh, yeah, we did. Yeah, we saw everyone else. I got so caught up in that battlefield, I’m like, did we even see Rand and Matt? But, yeah, of course we did. Matt was doing some crazy shit. Um, wow. Thank, uh, you so much, Barbara sedai, for joining us.
Yeah, Barbara, you stuck it out with us. I know. Hopefully, uh, it was fun for you. I think that was really cool. I’ve wanted to do this kind of stuff, so, yeah, it’s awesome.
It’s so cool. And, yeah, if you can join us, great. Uh, like I said, we’d love to get a packed room, but, uh, if it’s just us three, you’re, uh, always welcome back, Barbara. Hope you enjoy the podcast in general. Hope everyone out there enjoys the podcast. I’m going to record an outro with all of our information on it in a minute, or, uh, not in a.
Minute, but, uh, when I edit these.
But thank you for listening. I hope you enjoyed. I hope you’re enjoying your rewatch. Please send us.
I lied.
I am going to put a little.
Bit of a thing in here.
Please send your questions and comments, uh, as you’rewatching and picking up on things to thank the light@gmail.com. That is thanktholight@gmail.com. And chat with Fatty especially. I pop in there every now and then at parched ailman on Twitter, we are the wolf brothers at parched Ailman. Am I saying that right? How do you say it?
Parched what?
Parched Aielman.
All right.
There’s so many vowels in there.
Yeah. And, uh, for anybody out there who’s in there, I haven’t been as busy on it lately. Uh, by the time you guys listen to this, hopefully the surgery will be over and done. But we’re trying to get my wife Lisa ready for surgery. And, uh, by the time you guys hear this, hopefully it’ll be over and she’ll be on the road to recovery, and then we’ll be recording some more. And, uh, if you guys hear this, you guys got at least a week, and then you could join us for our next recording.
So give Lisa a huge hug, take your time, get healthy, and, uh, February. Well, even if we just bang out one episode, we’ll, uh, get together, continue this awesome ride.
All right.
Have a good night.
Talk to you soon. See you later. Watt family.
I’m a masterpiece, you know I do it for me
I am not average. I am not ordinary. I am a masterpiece. You know, I do it for me. I am not perfect. No, that’s imaginary. But I’m a masterpiece, you know, I do it for me. And all my colors and paints all my lines and my shapes, every move that I make. I am not basic. It’s self explanatory. I am a masterpiece, you know I do it for me just the way I like it. Yeah.
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